Absolutely loving everything about this project. You're making something spectacular here, all of the boys are very lovable and charming in their own ways.
(Also very, very excited for you to work on Vlad's route, hooh, Day 1 hooked me to him IMMEDIATELY. Y'all are doing the drag community justice.)
So I read the new Dev. Log. I was wondering. You mentioned day 6 call Owen. But you never did Brandon or any of the other guys yet? And I know you still have to do V l a d
my honest opinion about the update i liked it so far and also the different facial expressions and behavior of Owen, that really gives it an incredible amount of personality :3
and I took a screenshot because I discovered a mistake or if that's how it's supposed to be, if you look at Owen's hand it looks pretty weird theres
the update was unfortunately quite short but I still liked it!
but there is one thing that I found really negative and that is when you reach the end and are asked how the update was and if you liked it, it is very clearly mentioned that Owen is not liked and I think that's a shame!
especially when you hear that and you were really looking forward to the route with him and then you hear something like this, you kind of get the feeling that you want to get rid of him, and that it might even happen, which I think would be a real shame, I've seen this mentioned in other VMs before, and suddenly at some point certain characters are no longer there.
because I've grown really fond of him and I'd be really sad if he wasn't around anymore because I'm really looking forward to seeing more of him in the future.
Hey! Glad you enjoyed the update! I'm frankly not sure what I could do to improve the hand. Didn't realize that comment would be so hurtful orz. Don't worry, he's not going to perish from the VN. He's going to stay.
I just noticed it because everywhere his hand looks normal except here, but it's not that bad either I just wanted to draw attention to it.
it really came across that you really don't like Owen that much, and most of the time when a VM creator mentions that, it's usually for a reason and most of the time the characters disappear.
as I mentioned before I really like his facial expressions which shows his mood which really shows that he is really struggling with a lot of things and that makes it really fun to get to know him more.
because it is very important to me to give my open, honest and friendly opinion because I have recently noticed that,
when I see this in other VMs there are more and more unfriendly comments insulting the creators, and this has really gotten out of hand, rumors are being spread which is not okay.
and what I also noticed is that it's not really great if you don't have most of the stuff in your favorites list, or in general most of the games are not displayed here and it's really hard to find them, especially all the VMs are not suggested so less and less people see you because they don't know you are there, this has really deteriorated a lot lately on the site, I wanted to mention it additionally because I didn't know if you already know it yourself, because if I didn't have yours in my favorites list it wouldn't be suggested to me at all, and I think that's quite a shame I wonder if there's any reason why the site does that here
You're overanalyzing things. I really like Owen and he's not going anywhere. Sorry if the dialogue made it seem like that's not the case, but keep in mind that's an in universe character (albeit talking to the fourth wall) saying that, not me. That character doesn't represent my thoughts and opinions.
I didn't put this in the survey because it's super unrealistic but it would be funny if there were secret meta route type things where you address things early, but could only be done if you reached that far in the story already
That's a bit of a toughie to answer since there's a lot to the scene. If you want to know how to get everything from that scene, then you'll have to become a Blooming patron on my Patreon to get access to all that information. Otherwise, the most I can say is that Kamil will be more willing to do certain things depending on what you did the first five days of his route.
Day 1 technically. After the route split. There's a section in Day 2 that happens in all routes and then the character routes continue. Day 2 for Owen hasn't been developed yet.
I'm a little mixed with this VN. I really like the idea of the MC's race and past, which I think is quite unique. I honestly think that you could center the entire story around this aspect, and make it more of a slice of life, and it would be really good. I also like the other main characters, their designs and personalities seem interesting and diverse. And the art is great.
I'll be honest, the "mystery" fell really flat for me. There was no build up to it all, making it feel shoehorned in. The character involved had 1 scene prior, so also no investment in them at all either. And the fallout seemed weird? The MC seemed to care about it as much as I did, more interested in boning his teacher. And there was little to no reactions from anyone else other than Kamil...
I also felt the sex aspect felt rushed and forced. You have some really good, interesting ideas for your characters... but the horniness and sex aspect felt weird and forced, especially with Brendan's route.
All in all, I think currently, your interesting and good character ideas are just clashing with the "mystery" and sex scenes, making it almost feel like I'm reading 3 different stories overlapping.
Thank you for the feedback. I'm glad you like the characters and art.
I'm just going to say upfront that By Your Hands has a specific way of storytelling that not everyone will like. If the mystery seems to not have a big presence in the story so far, that's what we felt would be best for the narrative with the later parts of the story considered. You may not like it and that's completely fine.
As for the sex stuff, the cast is just horny so horniness is bound to be prevalent in the plot. I know that seems to be a flimsy excuse, but like that's part of their characters, not to mention that all of them besides Brendan are college students so they're around that age where they're especially horny. Brendan also has his own reasons for being as horny as he is. If you don't like it, that's fine, but it's part of the story. You can also make choices where the protagonist is less outwardly sexual so that the horniness is less prevalent.
Suggestion: Yousef and Fierro should also be dateable characters that you would just unlock midway through Kamil's route. I feel Yousef gives off dateable vibes and he's gay, so... Also there should be an option to accept Fierro's offer, even if he wouldn't be dateable.
I appreciate your interest in those two characters, however the VN is more focused on the story than the sex. Having the option to have even a one-night stand, let alone a relationship, with more characters besides the five LIs would distract from the main narrative and wouldn't add much to the story beyond more sex scenes. I understand that people enjoy more options in VNs, but the goal of By Your Hands isn't to give the player as much freedom as possible, rather to provide a specific story. That said, there will be side stories that focus on side characters, possibly giving them their own erotic content. If you want to see more of a certain character, maybe there will be a side story featuring them in the future.
wow what a great VN, while all the characters are really good, the one that stands out to me the most is Rex actually. I don't even know how to explain why but I LOVE the concept behind him and I really hope we get to explore more about his past, his inner conflicts, and how he interacts with the world (and vice versa). I want to say he's one of the most unique VN main characters I can remember.
idk if this issue will still be in this release but bitdefender compleatly hates text to speach on your app do you think you could maybe fix that please
when you press v narrator comes on but for some reason a virus pretector of mine called bitdefender thinks its a threat could you just maybe take a look at the script of narrator or something and thanks for the response
edit: this is the only game that has this problem also i can say 100% its still happening with this update 11.1 vs the 10.1 i had
My favorite route so far is with the Minotaur professor, Brendan. I am greatly invested in the murder mystery & Brendan's sad struggle in his private life, so I will only explore that route for the time being. I haven't developed any theories yet, since I need more info that future chapters will provide. I look forward to future Brendan updates.
I wanted to like Kamil, since jocks are cute & his personality is adorable, but his physical design is off putting: not to my liking, specially not after missing the opportunity to vote on the Patreon pole that determined the appearance of one of his attributes. This being a fictional world, I hoped it would carry over only the best aspects of Kamil's religion & forgo the most barbaric, inhumane & stupid tradition of said religion.
Hello boys, girls, and non-binaries. I decided to switch the game page to comments. It was extremely rare for anyone to make a thread or post in any of the boards. If you want me to switch back to the boards to recover any messages you made there, feel free to tell me.
I'm loving Mr. Baker route. Others professors potentional dates in other games doesn't explore the thrill of getting caught in a student/teacher relationship.
Cant wait for more i think its really interesting u put things like suicide and kinda bad stuff in there. And i really like owen since he is so shy and looks chubby ^^ (i hope he is)
I just found a saxophone solo to use as placeholder music for that segment but now that I'm listening to it closely it does sound a lot like Against All Odds. I'll definitely be replacing that in a future build.
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owen sprites bugged early/in brendens route. no clothes/body multiple times. i think its every instance of his shy sprite is missing clothes
Already reported on, will be fixed in next update. Thank you for reporting on it anyways.
Hey is anyone experiencing the same thing as me? Missing the menu, hide, skip text features? And how can I get them back?
And is there a discord here? I want to report this bug there
Oh that's weird. I'm not sure how that happened. Can you send me a screenshot? (Edit: Removed the discord server invite)
This game is soo good! I love the characters! I really like Owen's route so far. Your doing a amazing job!
(Hope this is ok to say but on mobile Owen's clothes are gone and it's just his head, hands, backfin, and tail that appear.)
I'm glad you enjoyed it!
(That's a known bug lol, it will be fixed in the next build)
Absolutely loving everything about this project. You're making something spectacular here, all of the boys are very lovable and charming in their own ways.
(Also very, very excited for you to work on Vlad's route, hooh, Day 1 hooked me to him IMMEDIATELY. Y'all are doing the drag community justice.)
Thank you so much for the kind words! Vlad's route will be worked on soon!
So I read the new Dev. Log. I was wondering. You mentioned day 6 call Owen. But you never did Brandon or any of the other guys yet? And I know you still have to do V l a d
Days 5 and 6 for Brendan and Kamil are done, they were just inaccessible in a previous build due to a bug. You can view them in the current build.
Ahhh! Owen is best boy. Though I'm curious once Owen is done, are we perhaps getting more content on Vlad? So curious about that birb
You'll find out soon enough ;)
Much appreciated๐ญ๐๐๐
More of Owen pls
More content of him will be coming soon.
Is there a Chinese translation?
There's a fanmade one available on a Chinese website. No official one yet.
my honest opinion about the update i liked it so far and also the different facial expressions and behavior of Owen, that really gives it an incredible amount of personality :3
and I took a screenshot because I discovered a mistake or if that's how it's supposed to be, if you look at Owen's hand it looks pretty weird theres
the update was unfortunately quite short but I still liked it!
but there is one thing that I found really negative and that is when you reach the end and are asked how the update was and if you liked it, it is very clearly mentioned that Owen is not liked and I think that's a shame!
especially when you hear that and you were really looking forward to the route with him and then you hear something like this, you kind of get the feeling that you want to get rid of him, and that it might even happen, which I think would be a real shame, I've seen this mentioned in other VMs before, and suddenly at some point certain characters are no longer there.
because I've grown really fond of him and I'd be really sad if he wasn't around anymore because I'm really looking forward to seeing more of him in the future.
Hey! Glad you enjoyed the update! I'm frankly not sure what I could do to improve the hand. Didn't realize that comment would be so hurtful orz. Don't worry, he's not going to perish from the VN. He's going to stay.
I just noticed it because everywhere his hand looks normal except here, but it's not that bad either I just wanted to draw attention to it.
it really came across that you really don't like Owen that much, and most of the time when a VM creator mentions that, it's usually for a reason and most of the time the characters disappear.
as I mentioned before I really like his facial expressions which shows his mood which really shows that he is really struggling with a lot of things and that makes it really fun to get to know him more.
because it is very important to me to give my open, honest and friendly opinion because I have recently noticed that,
when I see this in other VMs there are more and more unfriendly comments insulting the creators, and this has really gotten out of hand, rumors are being spread which is not okay.
and what I also noticed is that it's not really great if you don't have most of the stuff in your favorites list, or in general most of the games are not displayed here and it's really hard to find them, especially all the VMs are not suggested so less and less people see you because they don't know you are there, this has really deteriorated a lot lately on the site, I wanted to mention it additionally because I didn't know if you already know it yourself, because if I didn't have yours in my favorites list it wouldn't be suggested to me at all, and I think that's quite a shame I wonder if there's any reason why the site does that here
You're overanalyzing things. I really like Owen and he's not going anywhere. Sorry if the dialogue made it seem like that's not the case, but keep in mind that's an in universe character (albeit talking to the fourth wall) saying that, not me. That character doesn't represent my thoughts and opinions.
when is next Kamil update and Connor, last time he use the needle to him make me more curious.
I can't answer that question at this time.
after day one I cant decide who I wanna start my first ever route with cause like everyone's adorablee
Glad you like all the characters so much! Don't worry, you can do all the routes in different save files.
I didn't put this in the survey because it's super unrealistic but it would be funny if there were secret meta route type things where you address things early, but could only be done if you reached that far in the story already
That's an interesting idea
I think one the pictures glitched. Its day 3 if that helps.
That's something that needs to be fixed. Thank you for reporting this.
No problem I figured you'd want to know.
how many route are there?
5
Just finished um the route that im reading i love this vn keep it up i need new update
thank you!
anyone have a guide or hints for the full lewd scene of Kamil in the shower room?
That's a bit of a toughie to answer since there's a lot to the scene. If you want to know how to get everything from that scene, then you'll have to become a Blooming patron on my Patreon to get access to all that information. Otherwise, the most I can say is that Kamil will be more willing to do certain things depending on what you did the first five days of his route.
Will the guide be public at some point? I've run out of combinations of choices to get the last 2 cgs...
Nope
i still remember when catch a tiger by the.....was the end of the chapter, and you had the headless tiger plush at the end. chellay did bro dirty fr.
Headless Tiger is still there, he's just hiding.
Hell yeaaaa, gonna enjoy this.
hello I have a quick question when does the route for the Orca actually start ?
Day 1 technically. After the route split. There's a section in Day 2 that happens in all routes and then the character routes continue. Day 2 for Owen hasn't been developed yet.
I'm already aware of that, I just wanted to know who will be next after Kamil's route is completed
It's Owen
Looking forward to more content for Owen, and hopefully one day , Vlad as well.
Glad to hear it!
With this release, we now have all the songs related to Arc 1 of Kamil's Route out to the public. I hope you enjoy the soundtrack!
I'm a little mixed with this VN. I really like the idea of the MC's race and past, which I think is quite unique. I honestly think that you could center the entire story around this aspect, and make it more of a slice of life, and it would be really good. I also like the other main characters, their designs and personalities seem interesting and diverse. And the art is great.
I'll be honest, the "mystery" fell really flat for me. There was no build up to it all, making it feel shoehorned in. The character involved had 1 scene prior, so also no investment in them at all either. And the fallout seemed weird? The MC seemed to care about it as much as I did, more interested in boning his teacher. And there was little to no reactions from anyone else other than Kamil...
I also felt the sex aspect felt rushed and forced. You have some really good, interesting ideas for your characters... but the horniness and sex aspect felt weird and forced, especially with Brendan's route.
All in all, I think currently, your interesting and good character ideas are just clashing with the "mystery" and sex scenes, making it almost feel like I'm reading 3 different stories overlapping.
Thank you for the feedback. I'm glad you like the characters and art.
I'm just going to say upfront that By Your Hands has a specific way of storytelling that not everyone will like. If the mystery seems to not have a big presence in the story so far, that's what we felt would be best for the narrative with the later parts of the story considered. You may not like it and that's completely fine.
As for the sex stuff, the cast is just horny so horniness is bound to be prevalent in the plot. I know that seems to be a flimsy excuse, but like that's part of their characters, not to mention that all of them besides Brendan are college students so they're around that age where they're especially horny. Brendan also has his own reasons for being as horny as he is. If you don't like it, that's fine, but it's part of the story. You can also make choices where the protagonist is less outwardly sexual so that the horniness is less prevalent.
Fierro should be my daddy. Fierro Will heal all my Daddy issues
Excuse me? Fierro is a MOTHER ๐ค๐ ๐
Spoilers
The Fact that Wyatt isn't romancable in this story is a DAMN SHAME! I need my edgy wolf boy Content!
Oh well, I'll guess I'll have to make it up by fucking my Karkadan Himbo Bottom
Glad you've accepted the fact.
*minor spoilers*
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Suggestion: Yousef and Fierro should also be dateable characters that you would just unlock midway through Kamil's route. I feel Yousef gives off dateable vibes and he's gay, so... Also there should be an option to accept Fierro's offer, even if he wouldn't be dateable.
I appreciate your interest in those two characters, however the VN is more focused on the story than the sex. Having the option to have even a one-night stand, let alone a relationship, with more characters besides the five LIs would distract from the main narrative and wouldn't add much to the story beyond more sex scenes. I understand that people enjoy more options in VNs, but the goal of By Your Hands
isn't to give the player as much freedom as possible, rather to provide a specific story. That said, there will be side stories that focus on side characters, possibly giving them their own erotic content. If you want to see more of a certain character, maybe there will be a side story featuring them in the future.Bro, the images don't load in every game, I even deleted them and installed them and nothing (I'm a Mobile user)
what does "HAFBFSBDBBLT" stand for?.
at the end of the upload,when Rahmir appears, they give a rule of the "HAFBFSBDBBLT" and i dont know what does it mean.
It stands for "Huge-Ass Fucking Book For Short Big-Dicked Beefy Bottom Loving Tops." He says it the first time you meet him.
Oh my ๐ซข, darling you are awesome
I miss Brendan :(
he'll return eventually :)
Wait wa?
wow what a great VN, while all the characters are really good, the one that stands out to me the most is Rex actually. I don't even know how to explain why but I LOVE the concept behind him and I really hope we get to explore more about his past, his inner conflicts, and how he interacts with the world (and vice versa). I want to say he's one of the most unique VN main characters I can remember.
also connor update whenI'm glad you like him so much! Also please be patient for Connor's update. ;)
wait, so i cant stay with Owen and mr.Baker at the same time [cry]
you'll see
idk if this issue will still be in this release but bitdefender compleatly hates text to speach on your app do you think you could maybe fix that please
I'm not sure what you mean by that. What is it do you want me to do?
when you press v narrator comes on but for some reason a virus pretector of mine called bitdefender thinks its a threat could you just maybe take a look at the script of narrator or something and thanks for the response
edit: this is the only game that has this problem also i can say 100% its still happening with this update 11.1 vs the 10.1 i had
I'll see what I can do. Maybe you can try configuring your virus protector?
i can but its not a perminant fix also the narrator has a few other issues as well it likes to glitch out when volume adjusting and some other stuff
I see
My favorite route so far is with the Minotaur professor, Brendan. I am greatly invested in the murder mystery & Brendan's sad struggle in his private life, so I will only explore that route for the time being. I haven't developed any theories yet, since I need more info that future chapters will provide. I look forward to future Brendan updates.
I wanted to like Kamil, since jocks are cute & his personality is adorable, but his physical design is off putting: not to my liking, specially not after missing the opportunity to vote on the Patreon pole that determined the appearance of one of his attributes. This being a fictional world, I hoped it would carry over only the best aspects of Kamil's religion & forgo the most barbaric, inhumane & stupid tradition of said religion.
Hello boys, girls, and non-binaries. I decided to switch the game page to comments. It was extremely rare for anyone to make a thread or post in any of the boards. If you want me to switch back to the boards to recover any messages you made there, feel free to tell me.
I'm about to drop the bomb
I don't care about the mystery. I just wanna bond with Owen and tease Brendan until he's down bad for me
Edit: I also want to tower over Owen and be very forward with him like those tall beefy love interests do to the bottom MCs
I see you got your priorities straight.
I got my priorities gay, my dude
Ah~ I see you're a man of culture as well. UwU
need more Mr. Baker!!!
LOOKING AT THE COMMENTS TOOK A TURN I DIDN'T EXPECT BYE ๐๐๐
I'm loving Mr. Baker route. Others professors potentional dates in other games doesn't explore the thrill of getting caught in a student/teacher relationship.
I hope to see more of that in future โก
Ho boy, you're in for a wild ride. ;D
*Glee noises intensifies*
I bet Owen is "type casted" to be a bottom, but I'd love if there was a scene where Owen topped, He's just so adorable!
Glad we have another Owen fan here! :D
And I can't say anything about his position at this point in time.
I see what you mean, and imagine him as a timid top. Have main character's jurassic cakes power bottom that orca's cock.
Hell yeah, Harness that power core of horndog energy inside Owen, you get it!
Cant wait for more i think its really interesting u put things like suicide and kinda bad stuff in there. And i really like owen since he is so shy and looks chubby ^^ (i hope he is)
Keep it up :)
And if u dont have a discord u should make one :)
These guys have cakes and milkers, they can't be wasted. Ya better let the the MC top. ๐คฃ
Oh I will ๐
Tho I hope to bottom for Mr. Baker โก
Wow, I love how this VN has started, and breaking "MC's best can and/or feline friend(s)" standard is a refresh. And
[Spoiler]
That ending, I admit I was shocked.
Was Vlad doing a routine to Against All Odds by Phil Collins? Gotta say that's an unexpected musical choice.
I just found a saxophone solo to use as placeholder music for that segment but now that I'm listening to it closely it does sound a lot like Against All Odds. I'll definitely be replacing that in a future build.